Can Bangkok Be Enjoyed Without Booze? [S8.E10]

Greg 00:00:05 On this episode, we discuss how fun Bangkok can be. If at all. If you don't drink alcohol.

Ed 00:00:11 So if you think the only worthwhile things to do in Bangkok revolve around drinking and drinking culture, you'll love this episode of the Bangkok Podcast.

Greg 00:00:36 Sawa and welcome to the Bangkok Podcast. My name is Greg Jorgensen, a Canadian who came to Thailand in 2001 with a buddy, bought a beer and drank it outside of Don Mueang Airport. Terrified that I was going to be arrested. True story. Welcome to Thailand.

Ed 00:00:50 Is that true? You drank a beer outside of Denmark?

Greg 00:00:52 Yeah. The the the friend who picked us up at the airport, bought us a beer and gave it to us. And we were standing on the street corner, and I cracked it open, and I'm like, is this allowed? Or like really get in trouble. And I remember I.

Ed 00:01:03 Remember hearing that. That's great.

Greg 00:01:05 My friend my friend just looked at me and he goes, Welcome to Thailand, Greg.

Ed 00:01:10 Great.

Ed 00:01:11 And I met Knuth, an American who came to Thailand on a one year teaching contract officially 25 years ago. Fell in love with knowing I can get away with wearing shorts and flip flops to everything, but perhaps a wedding or a funeral. So I never left.

Greg 00:01:26 Man, I think you could probably get away with that once, maybe twice, maybe.

Ed 00:01:31 At a funeral. Well, I'm a very, you know, I'm a middle class guy from Ohio, so I'm a very casual dresser. So if you let me dress down, I'll do it.

Greg 00:01:41 Yeah. And in Thailand, there's, like we said, there's there's always someone who shows some cousin who shows up to your wedding wearing a Slayer t shirt and cargo shorts.

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Greg 00:03:21 And he asked us, what can you do in Bangkok if you don't drink alcohol? And we thought that was a pretty interesting question, as most social events, especially those in the expat community, revolve around, if not alcohol itself, then certainly the act of drinking. Dinners, meetups, chamber events, networking events, river cruises, pub quizzes, even the famous hash House Harriers describe themselves as a drinking club with a running problem. Sure, we thought this was an interesting thing to discuss and you famously enjoy a drink every now and then, while I slightly less famously, hardly drink at all. So it's a it's an interesting topic. And especially, like I said, in a city where most social events are at places that serve alcohol or revolve around drinking alcohol, or who have alcohol as a central part of of the theme of the evening.

Ed 00:04:10 Well, I love this topic. I want to give a shout out to a guy named Connor who's, I met out at a bar. I was at, samsara on the river.

Ed 00:04:20 And I think it's. I think it might be the, you know, it's adding up. I think it might be the third time that I was recognized by my voice. So he heard me hanging out with, my buddy I work with, and he recognized my voice from the podcast. That's awesome. And, and said, hello, super nice guy. so this is kind of interesting. So Connor actually suggested this topic, but you and I also happen to have a younger friend, dating in front of us, actually engaged to a friend of ours. and he also doesn't drink. And so we put two and two together and came up with the show. But, thanks, Connor for prodding us in the right direction.

Greg 00:04:56 I got to go hang out at samsara more often and get some ideas for shows.

Ed 00:05:00 Yeah, yeah, yeah. We need. We need more. Yeah. Maybe if we if we hang out more, we'll we'll get more.

Greg 00:05:05 I could just walk around the city talking loudly, hoping someone goes, hey, no.

Ed 00:05:09 But I love I actually love this question because I am just I'm guilty. I'm like, first in line for being guilty for just drinking socially, automatically, habitually, which is bad. You know, I just, I just I don't feel like I'm being peer pressure. That's not how I feel. It's just I'm out and I just feel like I need to have a drink in my hand, which is which is bad. It's wrong. Like, don't do it. But almost everywhere I go, you know? So I go to my blues bar. I'm there actually, for the music. I don't really need to drink, but I drink because I'm out, you know, or even at the film club. I'm there for the film and my friends. I don't need to drink, but I order drink anyway. and, we actually talked about this just a little bit before the show started. Of course, it is always possible that you could just go to a place where most people are drinking and say, hey, I'm not drinking tonight, or I don't drink, but I don't know what your take on that.

Ed 00:06:04 I kind of, I do, I do feel I have some sympathy for non drinkers in drinking situations.

Greg 00:06:11 Yeah. This is something that I've struggled with is not the right word but not the right phrase. But you know I've got the brain of of a filthy pervert. But some of my habits are pretty puritan. And among them is that I hardly ever drink. And I've never really understood the big deal around places not serving alcohol. Like if there's a religious holiday or an election or something like that. Right? I've got plenty of friends who in the past we've had plans to go out one night for dinner or something like that, and my friend cancels because he's like, oh, it's a dry day. I forgot, I can't go out. Oh, right. Yeah. And my thought.

Ed 00:06:49 Was.

Greg 00:06:49 Right. Like, Jesus, man. Like, if if you can't go out and enjoy yourself without alcohol, like there's a deeper issue that needs to be examined here for sure. But I realize that that's a real minority sort of uppity, dismissive attitude.

Greg 00:07:05 Perhaps. But I'm like you as well. Like when you go out with someone, it's just automatically assumed that you're going to get a drink and there's an extra level of friction for those who don't want to.

Ed 00:07:18 Yeah. So I mean, I give all all leeway to non drinkers. So non drinkers who have no problem being with drinkers. More power to you. So if you have the right kind of personality and you're just like yeah I'm not drinking and you never feel peer pressure and you don't feel awkward, you win. More power to you. Yeah. But then again, I do also have sympathy for people who aren't drinking, who really would prefer to be around other people who aren't drinking. So I get that, get that as well. Like just so they don't have the option. Like this is something that I should do because I do end up just drinking just out of habit or like, okay, my buddies got drinks, so I'll get a drink, so I. So I'm a little bit so I'm going to take some of our advice.

Ed 00:08:03 So we're going to we're going to list options in Bangkok. But these are things that I need to do like to go to specifically to an event that that where it's either officially non drinking or it's very unlikely anyone's going to be drinking.

Greg 00:08:15 Right. I should also say I'm a little bit of a hypocrite because I talk to my skinny friends and they're like, why don't you just say no to that extra piece of cheesecake? And I'm like, well, I could, but I don't.

Ed 00:08:25 I could say, no.

Greg 00:08:26 I could.

Ed 00:08:26 Say, that's true. Yeah. The other, the other shot I want to give. And I just this is in the interest of full disclosure. You know, how sometimes you get the feeling that you're talking to your friend about something, and then all of a sudden a YouTube video pops up, like you start wondering if, like, if Google's listening to your conversations like the the algorithm is chasing.

Greg 00:08:45 You, they're listening to you. They're listening right now.

Ed 00:08:47 Okay.

Greg 00:08:48 Okay.

Ed 00:08:49 You, you, you and I. You and I chatted on Facebook Messenger about this topic. Yeah. Right. Yeah. The next day on YouTube, like a video popped up. What non drinkers can do in Bangkok? No way. Like yes. So I want to give a shout out to this guy. It's a it's a YouTube channel called Thailand Bound. And, Yeah I'll, I'll just talk straight. This guy tends to focus on retired Westerners, like in Pattaya. And like five mistakes not to make when dating. You know, a Thai girl, like, this kind of stuff, you know? Like that's his. That's his. Great. That's his. That's his bread and butter. You know, like the retired, retired dudes and like, how to live on, you know, a hundred about a day. You know, that kind of stuff is a retired, like, English pensioner, you know? Yeah, that that kind of stuff. so I so I have seen his stuff before.

Ed 00:09:39 It's fine. It's just not my wheelhouse. But he just has a show. So I watched so I watched his video and then it sparked. So some of my ideas. This is stuff that he mentioned in his video. So, check out the YouTube channel Thailand Bound. Again, it's not not really my thing, but it's like solid content. He's lived in Thailand for a while. He's got some got some pearls of wisdom.

Greg 00:10:01 Okay, that's interesting because I went over to Reddit and I started digging around a little bit too. And there's some, there's some very lovely, or lively. Sorry. Looks like some of them are lovely. Some very lively discussions over there. People posting what do I do in Bangkok without alcohol? Great. And of course, it's the internet. So, you know, you get about six six threads in before someone says horrors or don't need alcohol or something like that, and it just degenerates into this ridiculous miasma.

Ed 00:10:26 Well, do you want to go first or do you want me to go first?

Greg 00:10:28 Well, I think let's you go first.

Greg 00:10:30 You lead off with your list because I think the list that I got is, is probably probably a significant overlap here. And let's be honest, like Bangkok is not unique. It's not like this is the only city in the world where these things exist for people who don't drink.

Ed 00:10:44 Yeah, some of the advice is general.

Greg 00:10:45 Yeah. And there's also probably not like a ton of options to do. So there's I don't think there's going to be any huge surprises here, but I think probably we've got all the bases covered. So lead off with yours and I'll follow along on my list here.

Ed 00:10:59 Okay. I'll just I'll just run through some stuff. So this is one thing that actually Connor mentioned that he had he had gotten into. But to me, first on the list are social sports activities. and right now it's pretty popular in Thailand to play paddle or pickleball for, for kind of older people. And I would lead off with that kind of activity because the goal here is you want to do something social.

Ed 00:11:24 So it's not just like, hey, what am I going to do with all my time? Okay? And go to the library and read books. So the goal here is I'm a non drinker, but I want to be social.

Greg 00:11:32 Right. Exactly.

Ed 00:11:33 So the key I think I think certain sports activities are kind of meant to be social like and to, to me again being a middle aged dude in Bangkok, to me leading the charge is pickleball and paddle, and those seem to be super popular if you want to be social. You know, some people, they want an intense workout or, you know, or they're hard core runners, but that's not what we're talking about. You know, we're talking about like, I want to do something social as a non drinker. So doing something athletic I think is number one. And in this case Conor was already doing it. But I think for for people out there, if you've never tapped into sports activities that are kind of designed to be social, to me that would be number one.

Greg 00:12:16 Yeah. The problem though is that, you know, after after a lot of these sports activities, often they get together for a beer, you know, like, oh.

Ed 00:12:23 No, you're right. No, I think you're but I think it'll be, you know, if you play a, if you play a pickleball for two hours, then you've kind of had your night out. And so some of those people won't be going on for a drink. I think it's really easy to be like, oh, I got to work early in the morning. So I don't know. I just think these social sports activities, you're not, you know, some of them, as you pointed out, like the hat, He liked the hair or the hash house hairs. Is that what they're called? Yeah, yeah. You know, they're kind of like, we are going to drink. Like, drinking is part of our thing.

Greg 00:12:52 Right? Right. But I think the other thing we were saying is no one is saying like, oh, man, I wish I could play some, like, you know, some hardcore touch football and not get drunk.

Greg 00:13:01 You know, like, it's pretty easy to do that and not get drunk because it's, you know, by the end of it, it's easy to, you know, you've got your event out of the way.

Ed 00:13:08 My second piece of advice would be, I don't I don't know what to call this. I would call this the broader wellness community. Bangkok has a lot of people into yoga, meditation and other wellness type things. There's a whole like class of things, and these are people who are into being healthy. Like, I mean, you know, so so I think these are the types of people who either would be non drinkers or be very cool to be around if you're not drinking. And I you know, I was a big yoga guy for more than three years. And it's a pretty cool community. there's tons of meditation groups. Our frequent guest prop handed, he's got his own, group of meditators. But if I if I decided, hey, I'm taking a break from drinking.

Ed 00:13:55 I'm taking a break from nightlife, I would I would head straight to a yoga studio, or I would, I would start hanging out with meditators, hit some of these meditation groups. obviously it also could potentially learn something about Buddhism or Thai culture. So I don't know what to call that. the wellness semi semi new age wellness community is pretty big in Thailand I guess.

Greg 00:14:18 So like so picking up a new hobby that is somewhat defined by its tilt towards living healthy would sort of automatically solve the problem.

Ed 00:14:28 Yeah. Well, I think my third. So that's my second piece of advice. My third thing is just any hobbyist group because that takes the focus off of booze. So it's like I thought of your kyudo, your Japanese archery stuff, right? There are. There's a very popular Bangkok chess club. obviously you gotta, you know, be a good chess player. But there's a board game community, there's a hiking club.

Greg 00:14:53 I want to stop. I want to stop real quick and say they ditto for board games, because every thread or bulletin board I looked at or read it discussion.

Greg 00:15:03 People were mad about board games, and every week there seems to be a new awesome board game, cafe or shop going up in Bangkok. So it's a there's a huge community of people out there now.

Ed 00:15:13 Again, some maybe at some of those activities there's drinking, but at least drinking is not the main focus. It's kind of like, you know, obviously some yoga people drink. But what I mean is if you're going to yoga activities like drinking is, it'll be much easier to opt out. Yeah. You know, if you were if you were joining a club of American football fans, well, now you're going to be in trouble if you say you're not a drinker. Yeah, you know.

Greg 00:15:36 What I mean. That's right, that's right. But as a board game geek, it's pretty easy to have an enjoyable afternoon playing.

Ed 00:15:42 Yeah, like half the people are going to be non drinkers anyway.

Greg 00:15:44 You know no one's going to be like come on man, let's pound some beers.

Ed 00:15:50 Before playing Settlers of Catan.

Greg 00:15:53 Risk is more fun when you're wasted.

Ed 00:15:55 Right, right, right. but there's a lot. You know, when I googled, this. There's just tons of clubs. There's apparently a huge hiking club, which it sparked my interest. I mean, this is because I want to increase my steps, but there's a very popular Bangkok hiking club that arranges, like, long walks and hikes, which is exactly what I need to do.

Greg 00:16:15 Yeah, yeah, there's tons of groups that are like, I belong to a couple of daddies groups on Facebook, and they organize weekend camping.

Ed 00:16:22 Sounds a little bit sketchy that daddies groups.

Greg 00:16:25 That's a different club down on Soi on Silom, but no, they are for like, like fishing weekends and hiking weekends and stuff. So. Yeah. So, you know, families go out and do these cool things and I guess sitting around a campfire drinking beers is is pretty easy to slide into that. But. Right. You know.

Greg 00:16:42 But there there are surprisingly varied activities in Bangkok where it's not the focus. Booze is not the focus at all.

Ed 00:16:50 Right, right, right. my next thing, and this is something that, the, the Thailand bound guy mentioned, which which is totally up our alley. It's like just taking a class that meet, you know, a lot of people take classes at night, you know, because they're working during the day. It puts you on a schedule. It gives you something to do. So, like, you go to work, maybe grab some dinner and then, oh, I got my, my, my Thai class, you know. So I think Thai language would be number one. But just really taking any type of evening class, it gives you something to do at night that obviously there's people there. So it's semi social and then you know, then when the class is over it's 9:00 or 930 and it's easier to opt out in case people are drinking. So I like this idea like if I, if I decided not to drink, I would be thinking, okay, how am I going to fill out my time? And so I think, I think a structured class is a great a great thing.

Greg 00:17:48 Yeah, classes are a good idea. Thai language is obviously the number one one. But there's, you know, there's there's also a lot of like painting classes, artistic classes, you know, knitting, things like that. There's computer classes, like Thai web courses, I think is the name of the company that's been around for a long time. Or you can go and learn programming and design and all this kind of stuff. Sure. You know, I feel like none of this stuff is is mind blowing and it's all pretty obvious once we say it. But I also don't think it's very obvious living in Bangkok, like.

Ed 00:18:19 Yeah, no, we, I, you know, I, I participate in traditional Bangkok nightlife too much. Yeah. Too much. But I do think people don't. In a way, it's kind of the whole, the whole purpose of the whole podcast is to show that there's a lot to Bangkok besides.

Greg 00:18:35 Exactly.

Ed 00:18:36 The wild, the wildness and the red light. And.

Ed 00:18:39 But. But it's absolutely true. Like, there's so many social organizations in Bangkok that are not, like, party focused, right? Like, there's a lot there's just a lot of groups and organizations and meetups, like ridiculous number of meetups for on 20 different topics, you know.

Greg 00:18:57 Well, speaking of meetups, I'm on on meetup.com, which I've always been a huge advocate for because I used to run a meetup group called Cafe Scientifique and, it was pretty cool, but we, we, we quit it after a few years. But like, I was always amazed at the popularity of them and how many people showed up for them. And there's tons there's there's reading clubs, there's discussion clubs, public speaking clubs. There's there's one on here I'm looking at right now. It's called ice baths and sauna and.

Ed 00:19:24 Damn. Oh no, that that fits the broader wellness community. Now of course some meetups would involve drinking, but the ones that you listed, it just sounds like that's not the priority.

Ed 00:19:34 That's not why people are there. And so it'll be easier to say I'm not drinking, right?

Greg 00:19:39 And the ice bath won. The picture is like five people sitting in a in like a jacuzzi filled with ice cubes, giving the thumbs up. So damn. Even if you wanted to have a sip of beer, you'd be shaking too much to get into your lips.

Ed 00:19:53 You know my last thing, Greg? I'm not sure what to call it, but I think there's kind of a an intellectual, subculture in Bangkok. It might not be huge, but I think it exists, and it's kind of like people who are into the same society or people who are into the National Museum. Yeah. And it's it's basically educated Thais or and kind of curious foreigners. But that whole scene, you know, I it's been a while, but I have been to some, speeches and stuff or talks at CM society and there might be a little bit of drinking and, you know, some wine over here, but those types of I don't know what to call them, you know.

Ed 00:20:37 Smarter, smarter. Meetups.

Greg 00:20:40 Intellectual pursuits. Intellectual hobbyists or something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The museum volunteers are huge. Yeah, the Siam Society is great. I've been a member for years, and I highly recommend people do that because they they get visiting classical musicians to perform, and they have talks in their library and lectures on a crazy variety of topics. And they do field trips in Bangkok and in Thailand and even outside of Thailand as well. You got to have a bit of money and free time to do that. But still, though, there's, there's there's a real, I don't know, the rabbit is the wrong word, but the people who are into these sort of subcultures are really into them. And there's a surprisingly vibrant support structure for those things here. You just have to dig a little bit, you know.

Ed 00:21:28 That's right. but I just like this topic because it's just it's just a good example of getting off the beaten path or breaking out of patterns. And certainly there are some people, like our young friend who just don't drink.

Ed 00:21:43 But then there's people who want to go on the wagon, like, this is something that I should do. You know, so you're someone who's used to going to sports, but it doesn't even have to be going to red light bars. It's just like you're used to going to sports bars or just or or my, my music club that I hang out at. There's just a lot of drinking there. So it's just it's very hard to, to, to go to a place where you have been drinking and then say, I'm not drinking, you know, and then you get some of the social awkwardness. So it's, it's, it's much easier just to say, hey, I'm going to go on the wagon for six months. And now, so I want to be just not have the pressure, not have it in my face. I don't want to be tempted. and, and I think Bangkok is, is good. I mean, this is I think maybe this is the point of the this whole episode is I think Bangkok is actually good for non drinkers.

Ed 00:22:32 It sounds crazy but I think it's good.

Greg 00:22:34 I do too. And what kind of hobbies do you think people can do? Can start to learn in Bangkok? there's.

Ed 00:22:41 Well, you have all the martial arts. I mean, you have martial arts, like, you know, you mentioned martial arts are huge, like BJJ, Muay Thai, obviously. I mean, that fits into the sports stuff.

Greg 00:22:50 I think photography is a huge one if you've ever.

Ed 00:22:53 Oh, photography. That's a good that actually that's really good.

Greg 00:22:56 Yeah. You've ever had the it's a lot like there's not a better city to learn photography than Bangkok.

Ed 00:23:00 There's a lot of photo walks and things like that. yeah. and again that hiking club, you know, outdoors stuff.

Greg 00:23:09 Bike riding. There's also the bike hash, which I go to sometimes. That's right. So yeah, there's there's tons to do with where where booze is, is not even a part of the main event.

Ed 00:23:20 Yeah. I mean, the problem is, you know, is just when you fall into the pattern of just, you're constantly doing stuff that involves drinking, like, you know, our, our favorite bike ride.

Ed 00:23:30 you know. The purpose of it is to end up at shit beer. Like that's the that's the that's the focus of. That's the focus of the whole thing. That's the that's the Mecca. We're heading to cheap beer.

Greg 00:23:39 Yeah, yeah. You're right, you're right. But we also do other routes where beer is, is not at the end. It's just the the reward at the end is our air conditioned condo and maybe it's through the pool. So to that. Yeah. Anyway, it's it's an interesting topic. Yeah. Like you said. And it's definitely doable. You might have to dig a little bit because the more traditional activities with us, with a heavy dose of, of alcohol involved are just so easy and so fun, so easy. Yeah.

Ed 00:24:06 It's everywhere. You don't you don't need advice on where to find that.

Greg 00:24:08 Exactly, exactly. It's right. It's in your face.

Ed 00:24:11 That's the default. That's the default. Yeah. Anyway great topic and I need to take some of that advice.

Greg 00:24:16 I do too. Yeah. And, I'll just look at that bottle of tequila sitting in my closet that's been there for about six years. I think it's probably fine to throw it out by now. All right, let's get into some lovely weather. Live with where one of us picks a particular aspect of living in Bangkok, which we discussed to decide if it's something we love about living here, loathe about living here, or have come to accept as something that we just have to learn to live with no matter how we feel about it. And this weekend, I got something for you, but I'm not sure how familiar you are with it. And this actually comes from our buddy BKK Vuk on Discord.

Ed 00:24:51 Oh, okay.

Greg 00:24:52 So what do you think of those Tao bin machines? The ones with the turtle logo. And it's like this big rectangular machine that dispenses an absurd variety of drinks and snacks.

Ed 00:25:08 Is it? Are those the ones that have all the different types of coffee?

Greg 00:25:11 Yeah, I think so.

Greg 00:25:12 Yeah.

Ed 00:25:13 Okay. It's funny, I, they kind of scare me, and I don't think I've actually ever used one, but, there is one at my university that I look at curiously, and I don't know why I've never tried it. I just look at it and, you know, it's funny, I. You know, I don't know why I'm on this, on this kick, but on the bonus show, I talked about going to a laundromat. That made me feel like I was in Japan. Yeah, it was so. It was so modern. That's how those timing machines, like, I look at it and I'm like. It almost seems like it's a little too sophisticated for for for Bangkok. Like, with all the options. You're right. It's got like, it's got like 30 different types of it's got like eight different types of coffee.

Greg 00:25:53 Yeah. And it's like Italian soda and it's got 12 different flavors. Yeah.

Ed 00:25:57 It's like.

Greg 00:25:58 Yeah.

Ed 00:25:58 Yeah.

Greg 00:25:58 Yeah. And you can choose.

Greg 00:25:59 Do you want shaved Oreos on top of your soda. Do you want a milkshake. Do you want this. Yeah.

Ed 00:26:03 It's I would say my all I can say about them is that they kind of scare me. And I've looked at them like, wondering if I should. I should attempt to get something, but I, I, I'm kind of intimidated. I don't know why.

Greg 00:26:15 Well, a lot like your washing machines. You just scan the QR code and and it starts making your drink and it takes like a minute and I think they're fantastic. And I was I walked by one one time.

Ed 00:26:26 But do you use them? You. Yeah. You use.

Greg 00:26:28 It. I've used them a lot. And I walked by one one time when a guy or the guy was servicing it and the front was open, and. Dude, it's like a mad scientist lab inside. It's crazy the amount of technology inside those things. I think they're fantastic. But I saw a discussion on Reddit and people were going back and forth about them, and people were like, oh, there's there's drinks are disgusting.

Greg 00:26:48 Such a rip off. But oh, really? I think they're great.

Ed 00:26:51 All right. Well, I'm, you know, due to ignorance, I'm just gonna have to make this a live with. But, maybe it's something I should explore. So. So some people think that drinks don't taste good.

Greg 00:27:01 Yeah, they thought that, like, the coffee is shitty and stuff like that. Oh, okay. Maybe they're probably not, like, hipster barista quality, but you're buying it from a vending vending machine on the side of the street, like it does. Pretty good for in a pinch.

Ed 00:27:14 Well, they do look pretty modern and sophisticated. I'll give them that.

Greg 00:27:18 Yeah. So I I'm a love for those things. I think they're great. That'll be your new hobby. Visiting every Taliban machine in in Bangkok.

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Ed 00:28:05 No doubt. Hello? Hello.

Greg 00:28:32 Blam! Blam! You know what we should do? I got these these stickers printed up. We should put up a live show. I gave you them, right? The bankrupt podcast stickers. I've put a few up in places around Bangkok. Cool. We should say that if, If any listener takes a photo of one and sends it to us, we should give them a little prize or something.

Ed 00:28:55 Oh, I like that.

Greg 00:28:57 Yeah.

Ed 00:28:57 Do you want to do that?

Greg 00:28:58 Implicate myself in a graffiti campaign?

Ed 00:29:00 Although.

Ed 00:29:01 Is it illegal to do that? Are you litter? Is it literary?

Greg 00:29:05 I don't know, I could just say I tripped. Oops. Trust my palms up against.

Ed 00:29:10 I'm a rule of law guy. Don't forget that.

Greg 00:29:13 Oh, okay. I'll do it on my own then I won't. I won't invite the narc.

Ed 00:29:16 Yeah. Don't get me involved. I'll go, I'll go. Eliot Ness on your ass.