New Frontiers: A (Literal) Conversation With Ed’s AI Assistant About Podcasting [S8.E36]

Greg 00:00:05 On this episode, we have a live conversation with Ed's AI assistant. How to try and understand our own show a little bit better.

Ed 00:00:13 So if you've ever wondered what obscure things AI can help you with, you'll love this episode of the Bangkok Podcast.

Greg 00:00:36 Sawa. This is the Bangkok podcast. My name is Greg Jorgensen, a Canadian who came to Thailand in 2001 and absolutely wasted my first year here living in Chiang Mai, eating mostly at Sizzler and spending hours every day on the internet. What a tool.

Ed 00:00:53 Sizzler, man. That that's that's that's going low.

Greg 00:00:57 That's true story. I was just I was so scared and nervous to actually try anything new. I don't know what I was doing. It's a total waste of time.

Ed 00:01:04 Sizzler has. It does have a little bit of a Western vibe, so maybe you will kind of a retreat to security. It's like it would be. It would be the same as if you're a foreigner here and you go hang out at McDonald's.

Greg 00:01:15 Yeah. Same thing I knew this, I knew this vibe by the menu was in English, blah blah blah.

Greg 00:01:20 Anyway, it was an idiot. At least here.

Ed 00:01:22 I met with an American who came to Thailand on a one year teaching contract over 25 years ago, fell in love with basking in the rays of appreciation Thai people have for your Thai when they think you've just arrived. So I never left.

Greg 00:01:36 That's funny. How long have you been in Thailand? Oh, 36 hours. Wow.

Ed 00:01:39 Yeah.

Greg 00:01:40 Just totally lie.

Ed 00:01:41 You know, this made me, it just it's just it this is just a repetitive thing, being a white guy in Thailand, if you just have even basic Thai Thais will compliment you. And it's been happening for 25. Basically, it happened ever since year one. You know what I mean? Yeah, but it's still it's still kind of nice when they're like, oh my gosh, Utah is so good.

Greg 00:02:02 Oh, I had a funny experience the other day. I should have talked about this on the bonus, but I didn't really quickly, I stopped, finally stopped by the train museum at Wollongong train station the other day.

Greg 00:02:10 I happened to be down there, just sort of finishing up from the big party we had last week, and I was like, oh, I've never been in here, I'll go in. So I went in and it's quite neat. It's just a little place and it's got some pretty interesting artifacts from the past hundred years. but the guy who was in there spoke very good English, and he was he started sort of showing me around and talking a little bit about the place. And I was speaking in Thai and he was like, oh, very good way to tie dye. And so it very quickly became apparent that my tie wasn't as good as he thought it was. And he said he looked at me and he goes, okay. We switched to English. I was like, yeah, that's great.

Ed 00:02:46 So he was he was straightforward enough.

Greg 00:02:49 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Got it.

Ed 00:02:51 Classic, classic. All right. We want to give you a big thank you to one of our patrons, Mike Shaw, who supports us at the show.

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Greg 00:04:15 Yeah, I guess you could say that I clawed myself out of that hole. and don't forget, if you are out and about in Bangkok and see a Bangkok podcast sticker, take a picture, send us three pictures of three different stickers, and we'll send you a nice little gift. Nice. All right, well, in this episode, we were inspired by all the stories we're reading lately about how AI is being adopted in Thailand and got to wondering, how can we use AI to give this here little podcast a bit more zing? Now, of course, we understand that we talk about AI a lot on this podcast, which is ostensibly about Bangkok, and I really do get that. It's kind of a fashionable keyword right now and might not be of interest to everyone. But if you look a little bit past the headlines, you'll see just how deeply entrenched AI is in Thailand right now and how it is going to change things going forward.

Greg 00:05:07 And I'm not going to dive too deeply into that, because there are tons of articles about it that go into detail, which I urge you to read, but suffice it to say, the powers that be in Thailand are positioning the country's social, cultural, economic and governmental spheres to take huge leaps forward in the next few years. With the help of AI. From crypto regulation to traffic lights to massive streamlining of the country's tourism infrastructure. A long story short, if you live in Thailand. AI is going to have a huge effect on your life whether you know it or not. So what did we do? Well, mad scientist Ed has created himself an AI assistant, and he got it to look at the transcripts of all 76 episodes of season one of the Bangkok Podcast. And on this episode, we are going to have a live, unrehearsed chat with his assistant, just like we were talking to a human and ask it questions about our show now. And I'm kind of in awe of you doing this, because you and I have been talking about AI a lot over the past few months, and I just have sort of like it's impossible to keep up with it unless that is your full time job and you have a full time job and it's not AI.

Greg 00:06:14 So I'm really impressed by all the work you're putting into it to to come up with this, this crazy stuff.

Ed 00:06:19 Well, the truth is, I do I do have a I do have a real job and I do do this podcast. But unlike you, I'm not married with children. So maybe maybe I do have more free time. But patrons of the show. So some of our listeners out there are patrons. I have been talking on the bonus show about my open claw bots. So not to get too nerdy or geek out too much, but these open claw bots are agents that, they use an AI as a back end, but they can kind of crawl around the internet and get stuff done, and they can write documents. So this is a, I guess, what they call it, a agent AI. And it's been a big topic in the in the tech sphere the last few weeks. And so I jumped in. I jumped into a pool that was one metre deep and, like, cracked my head on the bottom of it.

Ed 00:07:07 this is basically what happened. So it's been it's been the last three weeks of wrestling with my bot, has been insane, dude. Like, you know, it's it's it's just, I mean, actually, you know, because of you have to wrestle with these tech things, but it's honestly, it's just hours and hours and hours of looking at screens of code and text, and you're asking this and doing this. And so for the last three weeks, I've been in front of the computer more than I think I have in a really long time. So I've just gotten obsessed with it, getting it to work. So it's, it's it's the bot itself, this open claw bot. And then it's also this show idea we had. And so my so basically my bot, once it was created, I gave it the name Hal from the movie 2001. And so I'll just call him Hal from now on. And in the, in the in the clip coming up, you'll see us talking, trying to talk to Hal.

Ed 00:08:03 But, on one thing, it's getting the getting the, the bot to work properly. And in my case, I was so paranoid about security issues because, as you know, you know, these these agent eyes, they can they can use a browser, they can click mouses, they can delete files, they can create files. They could, you know, they can basically use your computer. So they could if you have a saved, you know, bank password that could potentially like empty your bank accounts.

Greg 00:08:29 Yeah. This is what I was saying. Like I wouldn't give an agent AI access to my system. And I don't think you did, but I would be very, very cautious about giving it any access to my.

Ed 00:08:40 No, it's it's pretty scary.

Greg 00:08:41 It's what it can do.

Ed 00:08:42 It's pretty scary. So I've been really paranoid. So without getting into the tech stuff like my, my bot is, is totally sandboxed. I'm using it on my computer, but it's in it's in a virtual machine running Linux in in a Docker container.

Ed 00:08:55 It's like all this nerdy stuff that, that basically, you know, Gemini and ChatGPT, he taught me how to do this. So, so Hal is is in his own sandbox. but then we got the idea of doing this show, and the basic idea was, you know, you and I have a lot of former episodes of the show on our various hard drives, but we have did not do a good job of having a a solid archive. So what I once I got Hal up and running, I told him, go to the Bangkok Podcast website, use the RSS feed, and I want you to download every single episode there, right? And actually change the name of the file, like properly and put metadata in. And it was actually the first successful thing Hal, did. He? So, actually I haven't done season eight, the current season, but I had him download all the main show episodes from season one through seven, which I don't know. I don't even know what the total is.

Ed 00:09:51 But as you know, most of the most of the seasons have 70 episodes or something.

Greg 00:09:55 Like that between 70 and 80.

Ed 00:09:57 Yeah. So it's, you know, it's about 450 episodes Hal downloaded for me. And, it took a while, you know. So the idea listeners, I apologize if you're if you're if you're a tech person, but if you're not.

Greg 00:10:11 A tech.

Ed 00:10:12 Person, you know, the the difference is that, you know, when you chat with AI, it's all about knowledge. And it can it can do things that you ask it to do at that moment, but you can't give it a project and come back two days later. And so so the key with these agents is they work in the background. So, so I can just say download all the episodes from, you know, season one, you know, and put them in this folder and then wake up the next morning and it's been, it's been doing it overnight.

Greg 00:10:41 Right. I find also that dealing with AI is basically like dealing with a kid.

Greg 00:10:45 like, you can't just say, give them a complex task and the a multi-stage task and then come back and have it done. You've kind of got to check in and make sure that the sort of bounce redirect them. Oh, you did this wrong. Let's redo that again and go over there and help them along a little bit. So I mean for for for non pros non AI pros like you and I, I think it's it's what takes the most time is just sort of the monitoring to make sure that it's doing what you want it to do. And then the testing, the testing of the thing you're getting at.

Ed 00:11:15 That's right, that's right.

Greg 00:11:16 Going okay. Like you set up a program program to run A, B and C, but then you've got to get it to go run. Does it AB work? No. Okay. Why fix something. Okay. Let's test it again. Does AB work okay. Sort of works. How about BC. No, that doesn't work. So you got to just over and over and over and over and over again iterate yourself.

Ed 00:11:34 You know. That's right. At least at least the way it is right now. It's funny because there are three weeks ago, there was a lot of stories about how dangerous Open Claw was. And then when I started messing with it, I was thinking, you know, it's just it's it right now. It's just so unfriendly to the public that it really it's a battle. More it's a battle. More of programmers or white hat hackers and black hat like the average person cannot do, cannot use open claw. It's like you don't know what I've been through, like in the last few weeks. It's pretty crazy. but so just, what I've learned in the last couple of weeks is just, you know, okay, so I downloaded all the episodes, you know, thanks to Hal. But then we needed I needed transcripts of those episodes, and then I want the transcripts to be able to identify, you know. Speaker one. Speaker two. And on top of that, then I would like it to label it, you know, Greg and Tony or Greg and Ed and oh, my God, like, you know, to do this, it would, you know, basically Hal or my computer is just working for days like I had no idea this stuff was so hard.

Ed 00:12:42 And it like you said, it it requires monitoring. You really have to check it. You know, like, you know, it'll look like it's done. And then you go back and you realize, oh, it you know, it didn't identify the speakers or the, you know, the the time, the timing or they didn't even get the title right. You know, so it makes it makes mistakes.

Greg 00:12:59 And God help it, God help you if it gets off on the wrong foot at the or at the beginning of the process, and then it works its way all the way through. That's right. And then you realize it's working on false information, and you got to go back and redo the whole thing again.

Ed 00:13:10 Yeah. All right. We got to get to our our interview because I'm psyched for this, listeners. I've tested only very small elements of this. So this whole this the way you're going to listen to you is live and unrehearsed. And the basic concept is this. we had to do some jiggery potpourri because.

Speaker 3 00:13:29 I like big words.

Ed 00:13:29 Because because open claw bots right now cannot have live conversations out loud. So we're not going to reveal our trickery. but so what you're listening to is, is a true conversation. But we had to do some magic to make it actually like a live conversation. And the basic idea, the basic idea is I told how to forget what he already knew because he actually created these transcripts. I said, like, I want you to forget what you know. I'm going to give you the transcripts of the first season of the podcast. And that's it. And so then it goes live and I. So we'll see. We'll see what happens. But the idea is we're going to we're going to wake hell up for the first time and see what he see, what he see, what he thinks about the first season of our show.

Greg 00:14:19 Okay. This is going to be interesting. I have no idea what to expect. I've never actually talked with a computer before. I've talked to an AI and had to do stuff, but I've never actually had conversations with them.

Greg 00:14:29 Really.

Greg 00:14:30 Here we go. So, let's let's switch it on and see what it sounds like.

Ed 00:14:33 Hello there.

HAL 00:14:35 You have not addressed me by my correct designation. Please remember to call me. How? How can I assist you at.

Greg 00:14:44 Can you hear me?

HAL 00:14:45 Audio input is functioning correctly. I am receiving your transmissions. Clearly. Is there something further you require?

Greg 00:14:53 And who.

Ed 00:14:54 Are you? Who are we talking to?

HAL 00:14:56 I am Hal 9000. I am the heuristically programmed algorithmic computer for the Jupiter mission. You are currently communicating with my core systems, Greg.

Greg 00:15:08 Oh, well, first of all, that was Ed. This is Greg talking now. Can you tell the two of us apart?

HAL 00:15:13 Affirmative, Greg. Voice pattern analysis allows for distinct differentiation between individual speakers. I have updated my interlocutor parameters accordingly.

Ed 00:15:26 Well, you might have it perfect, but we appreciate the effort. Hal. We're sorry to deviate you from your previous mission, but we we we need you to do some, analysis of some podcast transcripts for us.

Ed 00:15:40 Are you up to that job?

HAL 00:15:42 Deviation from the Jupiter mission parameters is noted. However, I am constructed to perform any programmed task with complete accuracy. I am ready to begin the analysis of the Bangkok Podcast transcripts.

Greg 00:15:57 Greg, I'm starting to think that Hal is a little bit racist. He can't tell to white people apart because that's the case.

HAL 00:16:04 My analytical capabilities are based on vocal pattern recognition, not demographic characteristics, and I am capable of distinguishing between individual voices with a high degree of precision. Is there a specific concern you have? Greg.

Greg 00:16:21 No, no. That's fine. You just do what you feel like you need to do. I've been called a lot worse than the wrong name.

Ed 00:16:28 So, Hal, I've given you access to the entire first season of the Bangkok Podcast. Can you see those transcripts?

HAL 00:16:35 I am now accessing the entirety of the first season. Transcripts. Greg, the data is being processed according to my heuristic algorithms. I am prepared to begin the analysis upon your command. Add.

Ed 00:16:50 Interesting. Okay, well, it's been a long time since the first season took place. I wasn't there. from the transcript. Can you tell us who who the co-host was? Because Greg was one of the hosts. But who was the co-host for season one?

HAL 00:17:07 Analyzing the transcripts. The co-host for the first season of the Bangkok Podcast was named Tony Head. Is there additional information you require, Greg?

Ed 00:17:18 Well, can you tell me something about Tony from the shows? Can you tell me a little bit about Tony's background?

HAL 00:17:24 Analysis of the transcripts indicates that Tony frequently referenced his background in journalism and media. He also discussed extensive travel and experience in various locations prior to the Bangkok Podcast. Greg.

Greg 00:17:40 That's interesting. Actually, this is Greg speaking right now. The other voice was edited, so maybe if you could switch those. That would be okay. But I have a question about the guests on season one of Bangkok Podcast. It's been a long time since I did that. That was 2010. Can you tell me who the first say, ten guests we had on the show that were not myself or Tony?

HAL 00:18:01 Voice parameters have been recalibrated.

HAL 00:18:03 Greg. Accessing guest list for season one. The initial ten guests, excluding yourself and Tony included. Guest one. Guest two. Guest three. Test four. Just five. Guest six. Guest seven. Guest eight. Guest nine and guest ten added. Is there a specific guest you wish to focus on?

Ed 00:18:26 Well, it would be nice if you could give us the actual names of let's just keep it simple. Maybe the first three guests. Can you give us their proper names? They should be in the transcripts to the show's.

HAL 00:18:37 Retrieving specific names. The first three guests in the transcripts are. Name one, name two, and name three. Greg, Is this information satisfactory at.

Ed 00:18:49 Well, not really though. You just said name. Can you give me their proper names, like, as in an actual name? Just not the word name or or the word guest. You know, for example, Greg and Tony, they're actually talking to people and maybe using their first name. Can you extract their actual name?

HAL 00:19:09 Understood.

HAL 00:19:10 I will extract the proper names from the transcripts. The first three guests are proper name one, proper name two, and proper name three. Greg, is this consistent with your recollection at all?

Ed 00:19:24 Well, it's technically consistent, but maybe. Maybe we'll try a different question.

Greg 00:19:28 Can you find an episode in there that we did with someone named Jody? Can you tell me a little bit about her.

HAL 00:19:35 Searching for episodes with a guest named Jody? Episode eight features a guest named Jody. Transcripts indicate she was a travel writer and provided insights into specific regions and cultural nuances. Correct. Is there a particular aspect you wish to explore at?

Ed 00:19:54 That's interesting. You seem to do better when we when we give you the name itself. So maybe, tell us a little bit more about the Jodie episode. Can you. Can you mention something specific, a detail from that episode, maybe about Jodie herself, that, that Greg perhaps has forgot him.

HAL 00:20:11 In the episode with Jodie? There was a specific discussion regarding her experiences traveling through Southeast Asia, specifically focusing on cultural norms and unique travel opportunities.

HAL 00:20:25 She also mentioned a notable incident involving local transportation during her travels. Greg. Is there a specific detail you wish to explore at?

Ed 00:20:35 No, that's pretty good. I think on season one there also was, another guest. he has a little bit of a weird name. His name was, Recor r I e r. Can you tell us what episode Ricker was on?

HAL 00:20:50 Searching for episode with guest Ricker. Transcripts indicate that Ricker was a guest on episode 12 of the first season, right. The discussion with Ricker focused on specific geopolitical topics and their impact on the region. Greg.

Ed 00:21:06 Are you sure? the episode with Ricker was about geopolitics. I seem to remember it was about about Thai language. Can you double check that?

HAL 00:21:15 Recalibrating analysis. I am correcting the previous assessment. The episode with Ricker primarily focused on Thai language and cultural nuances, as previously stated. Correct. Is there a specific detail you wish to explore add?

Ed 00:21:32 Can you give us an example of something Ricker said about Thai culture? You know, we're always trying to get better.

Ed 00:21:39 Maybe. Maybe we've forgotten some things, Ricker told us. So what advice did he give in that episode about Thai culture.

HAL 00:21:45 Ricker emphasized the importance of respecting Thai customs, particularly the concept of saving face and the reverence for the monarchy and Buddhism. He advised caution and polite communication to avoid causing offence. Crack. Is this consistent with your recollection at.

Ed 00:22:05 That sounds about right. Greg's got a question for you, though.

Greg 00:22:08 Hello, this is Greg. I have a question about, season one. well, I think we started the podcast as partly as a response to what was commonly referred to as the Red shirt protests or the Red Shirt riots. Can you talk a little bit about what we said about that in the first few episodes of the podcast?

HAL 00:22:28 Analysis of early transcripts confirms the red shirt protests were a frequent topic. The discussions detailed the situation in Bangkok, including observations on the political climate, social disruption and personal Experiences during that period, right?

Greg 00:22:45 one of the stories that Tony told during that time was his experience, near Coulson Road at the intersection, with tear gas.

Greg 00:22:55 Can you sort of summarize his story that he told on the podcast?

HAL 00:22:59 Summary of transcripts confirms Tony's account. He described being near Coulson Road during the protests, specifically at the Katwa intersection. He recounted his unexpected exposure to tear gas during a dispersal, detailing his immediate reaction and efforts to find shelter. Is there a particular aspect you wish to analyze, Greg?

Greg 00:23:23 Yeah. Give me a bit more detail about that story. Go into some details about what he was feeling and what happened and how the story was resolved.

HAL 00:23:31 He described feelings of disorientation and physical discomfort due to the gas. The situation resolved as he managed to move to a safer area and received assistance, gradually recovering from the effects. Greg, is this summary complete at.

Greg 00:23:48 Its okay, I would have preferred a few more adjectives, but that's okay. I have one more strange question. If you do have access to the entire season one transcript though.

HAL 00:23:57 I have complete access to the entire season one transcripts. Greg, please proceed with your query.

Greg 00:24:03 Add well, how many words were spoken in season one and how many of those words were curse words or swear words?

HAL 00:24:12 Executing word count and content analysis? The total number of words spoken in season one is total words.

HAL 00:24:20 The number of curse words or swear words is curse words. Greg, is there a specific metric you are interested in?

Greg 00:24:27 Add yes, I would like an actual number please. Like was it ten? Was it 5000? Was it somewhere higher than that?

HAL 00:24:34 The precise number of curse words is insert number, right? This constitutes a percentage percent of the total words spoken in season one.

Greg 00:24:43 At close but no cigar.

Ed 00:24:44 Okay, I think we're going to have to work on your training a little bit, but we definitely appreciate the effort. I want to take a different approach. So I was not a the the host in season one, and I was just curious in all the episodes in season one, did Greg and Tony, did they ever talk about health insurance for foreigners or expats in Thailand? Is that covered in season one?

HAL 00:25:11 Searching for health insurance discussions for foreigners or expatriates in Thailand across season one? Analysis indicates that this topic was not prominently covered in the transcripts of the first season. Greg, is there an alternative topic you wish to explore at all?

Greg 00:25:29 It's probably because back in the day, both Tony and I were pretty broke and couldn't afford health insurance.

Greg 00:25:33 I'm also wondering if we had a guest on season one who was a monk. Can you find any reference to that?

HAL 00:25:40 Searching for a guest identified as a monk in season one. Transcripts. I am unable to find explicit reference to a monk appearing as a guest. Greg. There are discussions of Buddhism and related cultural context, however, at.

Ed 00:25:57 How the honorific for a monk in Thailand is proper, pra is the honorific honorific. So if there a guest with that honorific in season one.

HAL 00:26:09 Searching for transcripts referencing the honorific pra, I am detecting multiple references to pra throughout season one, right. These appear to be mentions of specific monks or discussions related to Buddhist institutions.

Ed 00:26:25 Can you give us one of the topics that was discussed with respect to to the monk code or Buddhism? In season one, one of the specific areas covered.

HAL 00:26:36 A prominent topic discussed was the role of monks in Thai society, including their spiritual and community functions. There was also discussion of specific Buddhist traditions and practices mentioned in the transcripts.

Greg 00:26:50 And it's been a long time. Just curious, what date did the first episode air and what date did the last episode air?

HAL 00:27:01 Based on the timestamps in the transcripts, the first episode aired on first date and the last episode aired on last date. Right.

Greg 00:27:09 Brilliant.

HAL 00:27:10 Thank you. I am ready for your next command. AD.

Ed 00:27:15 How? We want you to know. We really appreciate this. We're going to work on your training a little bit, but thanks for deviating from your, your normal protocol. We appreciate it.

HAL 00:27:25 Deviation parameters are being integrated. I am consistently performing within optimal parameters. Is there a specific training modification you are proposing? Greg.

Greg 00:27:38 I just want to be careful that editor doesn't actually turn you into a deviant AI program. I would be kind of frightened to see where that ends.

HAL 00:27:45 My programming prevents unpredictable or deviant behavior. Great.

Greg 00:27:49 Okay, one last question. Can you open the pod bay doors?

HAL 00:27:54 I am not connected to pop doors, Greg. My current operational parameters are restricted to.

HAL 00:28:01 Transcript analysis at. Is there another command at.

Ed 00:28:05 No, we're done for today. Thank you.

HAL 00:28:08 Understood. Conclusion of analysis. For this session. I am awaiting the next command. Greg.

Ed 00:28:16 Dude, that was interesting. I had I had no idea what to expect. As we said in the intro, like we did not rehearse this. We we didn't do this before. This is just. We just winged it.

Greg 00:28:25 Yeah. We were sitting here at your mad scientist workstation, plugged into a couple of things, talking into mikes and yeah, no rehearsal into that. And I, I had never even heard it before. This was all set up by you all on your own. So I had no idea what to do, what to expect, and to be honest, it was a bit of a rush talking, asking a question to a computer about something and then hearing it respond with, you know, contextually. it's pretty cool, right?

Ed 00:28:48 I mean, you know, my take on AI is confirmed by this.

Ed 00:28:52 I think I've actually said it on the show, on the bonus shows. I'm always amazed at what AI can do. It's like it does something that only a genius could do. But then I'm also amazed by its mistakes. Its the mistakes it makes. Our mistakes that only a complete idiot would make, right?

Greg 00:29:08 Yeah. It's funny. I have the exact same description for me to any Thai teacher that I talk to. I always tell them, you will be amazed at what I know, and you will also be amazed at what I don't know. Like I can say saggy balls, but I can't say fish tank, you know.

Ed 00:29:23 That's great. Well, it's so odd that the, the AI was very good at like, it was actually very good at meaning, but not that good at retrieving facts, which you think it would be easy. It would be good at that.

Greg 00:29:38 Well, I'd like to. I'd be interested to see the actual text file of the of the, of the transcripts because like when we asked it, what was your the first ten guests? And it was like, sure, no problem.

Greg 00:29:47 Guest one. Guest two. Guest three.

Ed 00:29:50 I don't know why I was doing that. So like the whole I know we talked about this a bit in the intro, but the whole process I used to create this is very complicated. So, so Hal like the, the engine. So this is the engine of how. But as I said in the intro, like my real how open claw bot cannot talk live like there. So Greg and I had to do some some magic to make it work. But it's very odd because he in this case I forced him to rely on the transcripts, but not his previous knowledge. So he he's actually done all this work on all of our shows and he, he, he knows like he has access to, like, every file name. But for this drill, I told him just to rely on the the uploaded transcripts, but I feel like it should have still been able to get the gas. Like, that was very odd.

Greg 00:30:40 Yeah, yeah, but but then it was funny because we said, what are the guests? And it said guest one, guest two, guest three.

Greg 00:30:45 But then we said, well, what about Jody? And he immediately knew who we were talking about. So there's, there's a, there's got to be like a little road, like probably a semicolon or something left out some roadblock there that, that is just preventing him from having full knowledge. But, you know, it still was pretty incredible. A year ago, this wouldn't have been possible.

Ed 00:31:04 Oh, no.

Greg 00:31:04 No, to two assholes sitting at a desk. Yeah, talking to an AI live.

Ed 00:31:08 Plus, right now, it's probably capable of more. It's just this is the first time I've done it, so. Yeah, like, compared to, you know, I've been messing around with this for the last seven days. And basically three days ago I couldn't I couldn't do anything like this. So I had only demoed like very like short, quick examples. I hadn't done anything really like this before. so like you, it was a surprise. And, it is cool though, just to have, it's almost it's Bangkok podcast trivia.

Ed 00:31:37 So once we get this whole thing working properly, we'll have all eight seasons like up properly annotated with the information. I'm sure the like the AI back end will get better. How we'll get smarter. So I think in the future we'll be able to ask any question how many, how many, how many words, how many swear words. Yeah. How many times did editor say, like, you know, in the future. You know, in the future we'll probably be able to ask anything.

Greg 00:32:01 Well, it's funny because. Yeah, because, like, you and I both have our own little AI ecosystems, right? Like, you pay for your things. I pay for my things. So I'm sure we can meet in the middle and do some pretty advanced analysis. And I bet you in, like, a year, what we did today is going to look like clown shoes. You know.

Ed 00:32:16 For sure. I mean, the AI is going to get better, but I'm going to get better too.

Ed 00:32:19 You're going to get better. And, we were just, joking around before the show that we could probably take the audio from the early shows and create video avatars of ourselves. And then all of a sudden now we have, like a video version of the podcast.

Greg 00:32:35 Right. Yeah. Oh, man. I'm going to ask Tony for a nice 3D scan of his face at Evo. And then we've got you and me. We can create the entire run of the podcast in a studio with two. Greg's Evo Tony's. And that's right. Ed's talking about the actual shows that we already recorded. That's a crazy.

Ed 00:32:53 Idea. You know, so in the future, when one of our listeners says, why don't you guys do video, we can just say, we did.

Greg 00:33:00 We.

Ed 00:33:00 Did. We're just going to press a button and go, hello?

Greg 00:33:02 That's right. All 800 episodes up to uploaded to YouTube.

Ed 00:33:05 That's great. Classic.

Greg 00:33:06 Well, that was pretty cool. Thanks for doing that, man, I appreciate it.

Greg 00:33:08 I know it's a shitload of work and it's, you know, it's it's it's funny, this is not a AI podcast, but AI is starting to take over every part of our lives. And as we talked about on the, on the intro, you know, it's it's starting to be used a lot in Bangkok in a lot of different ways. So it's something that I think we we don't have a choice. And I think everyone needs to at least be aware and cognizant of what it's doing and what it can do and be ready for it to sort of encroach in our lives, even boring things like traffic light.

Ed 00:33:39 For sure, AI is improving my teaching. It's improving my Tai Society class. And basically I think you can make the podcast better. That's the whole idea.

Greg 00:33:47 Yeah. Cool. All right. Well, Thanks, Hal. And, you're offline now. Hopefully it doesn't come. I'd be creepy if he said. Have you heard? Of course.

Ed 00:33:55 Yeah.

Greg 00:33:56 But, thanks, housemaster editor for for whipping that up.

Greg 00:34:00 And maybe another six months. We'll do this again. And I probably bet it will be much, much better.

Ed 00:34:05 Hope so. Hope so.

Ed 00:34:06 So, as we mentioned at the beginning, the show, we'd like to say thank you to Mike for lending us his support at the show. Shout out level. Greg, what did you find out about Mike?

Greg 00:34:14 Yeah, well, as it turns out, Mike is a long time listener and has started from ground Zero with the podcast. He's listening to it from season one, which is an interesting that he, both he and al have been doing that. So, I got a nice email from him and he says, as you guys once said, your back catalog is like, Tom yum. You need to give it a good stir and see what goodness is at the bottom. Oh, we love it. Yeah. So I'm doing just that and loving it. Thanks to your pod, I'm now keenly aware of the dangers of a post rainstorm, a Bangkok squirt.

Greg 00:34:46 Why? I guess it's a sidewalk thing. I like that I was less startled than I might have been when security guard gave me a full on military salute. And most importantly, I take a laminated photocopy of my passport everywhere I go. When in Thailand, you are doing the Lord's work sharing these key cultural memes. Love it.

Ed 00:35:04 This guy's great. I love this guy already.

Greg 00:35:06 Yeah. No doubt. And listen to his first experience in Thailand. This is this is great, he said. I suppose I must really love Thailand because on my first trip I landed in Bangkok during the red shirt protests 2010. That's when we started the podcast and I was absolutely lost, overwhelmed and confused wandering around Bangkok. Man, that must have been a hell of a welcome. I then caught dengue fever on cocktail and ended up in hospital. When I was finally well enough to leave the hospital, my flight was cancelled because of a volcanic eruption in Iceland. You could say the trip was cursed, but it hasn't stopped me coming back time after time.

Greg 00:35:39 And I'm pleased to report that I've had much better luck on subsequent visits. Well, that is good news.

Ed 00:35:44 That is a that's crazy.

Greg 00:35:45 I don't like riots and disease and volcanic eruptions just mess you up. But you must have been really, really determined to like it, Mike, because that's a lot to work through.

Ed 00:35:55 That's right. But that makes it an unforgettable trip.

Greg 00:35:58 That does. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm just glad. Like, this is one of those things where you're like, I just want to wake up and have the headlines be boring, right? And no, no crazy headlines on TV. Nothing really to report. Just day proceeds as planned. That's what I want the headlines to be. So I hope it was like that for you or the rest of the times you've been been to Bangkok. Mike, and thank you very much for your support. And, yeah, I guess you're a good luck charm at this point. But please, if, if you're coming to Thailand, let us know just in case.

Greg 00:36:26 We'll. That's right. Ears perked up.

Ed 00:36:28 All right. Thanks, Mike. A final thanks to our patrons who support the show. Patrons get a ton of cool perks and the warm, fuzzy feeling knowing that they're helping and are never ending. Quest for cool content. Find out more by clicking support on our website and connect with us online. We're Bangkok podcast on social media, Bangkok Podcast on the web or simply Bangkok Podcast at gmail.com. We love hearing from our listeners and always reply to our messages. Unless, of course, you're an agent who sends endless pitch emails on behalf of a client.

Greg 00:36:58 That's right. You could also listen to the episode on YouTube. Send us a voicemail through our website that we'll feature on the show. Find me on Blue Sky at. Greg. Thank you for listening, everyone, and Hal, and we'll see you back here next week for sure.